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Fellow citizens, we have been tricked. All the smoking guns are hidden, in plain sight.
by BraveNewWorldOrderFighter Thursday, Sep. 18, 2003 at 6:42 PM
BraveNewWorldOrderFighter@yahoo.com (email address validated)

"for Pittsburgh Indymedia because I'm from Pittsburgh"

I haven't believed much that my government tells me since Vietnam, and it took ME almost a year and a half after September 11 to suddenly get it.

It's been a long, dreary spring and summer for this citizen. My beloved country truly has been taken over, by our own.

I've been like Cleopatra, De Queen of De Nial.

All the smoking guns I've tried to explain away to myself! The stolen presidential election-cum-appointment of 2000. The return from Iran-Contra's slimy depths of Cheney, Ashcroft, Wolfowitz, Perle, Rumsfeld, et al. The eerie silence of "the news media" about all things controversial and its galling show of red-white-and-blue panties as it cheer-led the mighty United States of America off onto wars of conquest. The declarations of presidential edicts.

I'd shrieked "coup d'etat!" when the absurdly-named Patriot Act was forced through a cowering Congress six weeks after the attacks, because I understood that half of our constitutional Bill of Rights had been eliminated.

But I really didn't get it, really didn't get it that we have been taken over, by our own, for real, until the evening of Sunday, February 23, 2003, when I tripped across a picture of the Pentagon on September 11. I suddenly realized I couldn't see any wreckage or evidence of a Boeing 757.

I felt like I'd been hit by a truck. (And I actually know what that feels like, having survived my collision with an old Jeep Wagoneer's grill some years ago.)

Now, maybe speeding commercial airliners do skid into steel-reinforced granite walls at ground level and vanish into nothingness. Maybe steel-reinforced granite walls do stand intact for almost half an hour before collapsing into a squared-off, tidy heap less wide than a Boeing 757. Maybe I'm crazy for thinking that I should be able to see the airplane the announcer says he sees here: http://www.msnbc.com/news/720851.asp?cp1=1
Maybe. Maybe not.

But I instantly realized that if there's no airplane wreckage at the Pentagon, then WE HAVE BEEN TAKEN OVER BY OUR OWN. REALLY.

THUD.

Of course, since then, I've suddenly seen many more of the smoking guns that were hidden, in plain sight, this whole time. The mysterious, first-ever collapse of structural steel buildings from fire, and into dust that burned hot for three months, at that. The odd existence of two fields of wreckage of Flight 93. The inexplicable lack of air defenses and the very peculiar behavior of the commander-in-chief that morning.

I learned of the Project for a New American Century, whose authors now run the White House, which clearly spells out these people's plans to run the world, like a business.

And I thought I'd been paying attention. Nope, I was tricked, too.

Now the question is: Can we citizens save our beloved country from the criminals now running it? How?

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true
by Jan Thursday, Sep. 18, 2003 at 9:38 PM

I am sorry to say that you are right Fighter. I have read many things on 9-11 and it is the great stimulator for the New World Order.
And if you look around, you will start to put more and more pieces together. The symbols are right in front of your face.
I believe that something should be done. People are writing books, putting up websites, etc, but more needs to be done.
Here are some good sites :

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org
http://www.truth-now.com
http://www.davidicke.com
http://www.thewaronfreedom.com

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BNW
by jeez Friday, Sep. 19, 2003 at 4:38 AM

>But I really didn't get it, really didn't get it that we have been taken over, by our own, for real, until the evening of Sunday, February 23, 2003, when I tripped across a picture of the Pentagon on September 11. I suddenly realized I couldn't see any wreckage or evidence of a Boeing 757.

Dude, there were eyewitnesses of the plane hitting the Pentagon. Weren't you watching TV on Sept 11th? Did you not read the reports of the eyewitnesses. If you've ever been to D.C., there's like this big freeway going right by the Pentagon, and traffic around D.C. is always packed during the day. A bunch of people witnessed the plane hitting.

Pass the frickin' bong!

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what we do know
by graffix Friday, Sep. 19, 2003 at 6:14 AM

http://post-gazette.com/headlines/20010913somersetp3.asp witnesses found debris from the plane 6 miles from the actual crash site, indicating that the plane came apart in the air, an event which usually follows an attack by a fighter aircraft
http://www.rense.com/general13/penn.htm FBI agent Bill Crowley told a news conference when asked about reports that a U.S. fighter jet may have fired on the hijacked Boeing 757
http://whatreallyhappened.com/illegaltrades.html says it all
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/search/s_8495.html Anthrax identical to U.S. Army stocks traced to Maryland lab
http://www.john-f-kennedy.net/thefederalreserve.htm On June 4, 1963, a virtually unknown Presidential decree, Executive Order 11110, was signed with the authority to basically strip the Federal Reserve Bank of its power to loan money to the United States Federal Government at interest
http://www.jfklancer.com/Garrison2.html u were warned in 63 and 67
http://www.post-gazette.com/columnists/20020925roddy5.asp When a man sees the weather as a conspiracy there's little use arguing. With Artie Smith, you stand back and listen
http://www.prozactruth.com/ to jeez
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/search/s_122781.html They say they will tell you what to do when you need to know....guess again http://www.gunowners.org/

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i
by i Friday, Sep. 19, 2003 at 12:51 PM

"Of course, since then, I've suddenly seen many more of the smoking guns that were hidden, in plain sight, this whole time. The mysterious, first-ever collapse of structural steel buildings from fire, and into dust that burned hot for three months, at that."

We've never had the chance to see what the ramifications were of flying a 757 loaded with high octane jet fuel into a structural steel building at top speed would be. Thanks to some wonderful Islamic friends we can see that the results are catastrophic. Thanks to you we can see that the ability to access the internet is obviously not hinged upon one's ability to think rationally.

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JEEZ LOUISE !!!!!
by No Name For Fear Of Reprisal Or Slander Friday, Sep. 19, 2003 at 4:27 PM

Jeez is right!!!! Better yet, Double Jeez. Because this is someone that PGH IMC wants to add to the "editorial" collective.

http://howard.indypgh.org/pipermail/imc-pgh-editorial/2003-September/001053.html

http://howard.indypgh.org/pipermail/imc-pgh-editorial/2003-September/001057.html

"It just keeps getting weirder and weirder"

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At least I show my face and state my name.
by BraveNewWorldOrderFighter Friday, Sep. 19, 2003 at 4:52 PM

Sounds like the IMC editorial collective might be a little too weird, even for me.
Sounds like a certain someone at the P-G is keeping track, too.
Slander by definition is a lie, so I do not fear slander. Reprisal? Should I feel threatened for my personal safety? Hmm?

Life is funny. That's why I laugh all the time.
For crying out loud.
Emily L. Bell

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brave new world FIGHTER
by jan Friday, Sep. 19, 2003 at 4:55 PM

"History is the record of what human beings have been impelled to do by their ignorance and the enormous bumptiosness that makes them canonize their ignorance as a political or religios dogma."
-Aldous Huxley

What I see happening:

I see the whole 9-11 event as a "conspiracy theory" that everyone will turn their minds away from questioning. As soon as the words "conspiracy theory" are added to a subject, people close their minds off. But 9-11 was set-up and there are numerous articles, books, websites, etc. on the topic that calls into question the story the Americans were spoonfed. If you go to the article links above, you will get some of the discrepencies in the event. Do you honestly think that you have heard the truth from the media? Maybe this time the truth will NOT be forced underground (or diverted from the minds of the people), because now we have a real information tool at work.
All those people out there who criticize others for their conclusions, take the time to read and then make your judgement call.
Remember, this technique has been done by many people.
Some things to ponder:
"The CIA owns everyone of any significance in the major media." -William Colby (former director of the CIA)

"It is in the region of ignorance that tyranny begins."
-Ben Franklin





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website link
by beating around the bush Friday, Sep. 19, 2003 at 5:46 PM

http://c4.zedo.com/ads2/f/24722/3853/172/0/167000163/167000016/0/167/2/zz-V1-pop1063975828087.html

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Does Aldous Huxley Need a Mortgage
by what's with that link above Friday, Sep. 19, 2003 at 6:32 PM

Talk about spam.

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shiiit
by beating around the bush.. Friday, Sep. 19, 2003 at 7:22 PM

OOPs! the real link is this:

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0332/mondo4.php

NO, Huxley doesn't need a mortgage.

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is this fair?
by jan Friday, Sep. 19, 2003 at 7:40 PM

Is it fair to use subliminals against the citizens of another country to influence their decisions, thereby influencing their minds unconsciously? Go to this site and learn about a most dangerous weapon that the US Airforce has in Pennsylvania, called the EC-130E/J.
http://www.geocities.com/AirForcesubliminal/
This is pretty bad.

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